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Knead Hospitality & Design cofounders Jason Berry and Michael Reginbogin dream of work-life balance in restaurantsKnead Hospitality & Design cofounders Jason Berry and Michael Reginbogin dream of work-life balance in restaurants

The D.C. company is piloting a four-day work week for salaried employees

Bret Thorn, Senior Food Editor

January 18, 2022

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It would take too long, and it would be traumatizing, to recount the litany of setbacks that have hit the restaurant industry over the past two years. But among the worst has been the loss of skilled people who make restaurants fun to visit and great places to work.

The pandemic has reset people’s priorities, and there are fewer chefs and managers who want to spend most of their waking life catering to the needs of increasingly petulant customers and hourly employees who only show up when they feel like it.

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“Our industry has to do something,” said Jason Berry, who with Michael Reginbogin founded Knead Hospitality Design in 2015 in Washington, D.C. “We’re getting crushed [by] the fact that money is not everything and lifestyle is a big deal.”

Knead operates a dozen restaurants, including Succotash, Mi Vida, The Grill, Mah-Ze-Dahr Bakery and Bistro du Jour in the Washington, D.C., area, and the group is about to test a new program for salaried employees called 4Days@work.

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Under the new regime, managers and chefs would generally work four 12-hour shifts a week in restaurants and then, just like white-collar employees in other industries have learned to do, do work that doesn’t require them to be onsite wherever they want.

“The idea is when you’re at the restaurant you’re focused on the guest, on the food, on the service, on the facility and the team, and making sure that everything’s running great,” Berry said. “And then the things that you could do in an office [such as bookkeeping, scheduling, sending invoices and email] ... you can do it from the beach, from the mountains, from the car, from your home.”

That way they’ll have some of the flexibility that working in restaurants hasn’t traditionally provided.

The program hasn’t been tried yet because, although all of Knead’s restaurants are fully staffed — which is very unusual in restaurants these days — they need to be overstaffed for this to work because they need one more chef and one more manager at each restaurant, adding around $140,000 to payroll for junior positions.

But Berry thinks it will be worth it.

“This sounds a little spiritual, but I believe that there’s energy that good people, smart people, happy people, give in what they do every day,” he said.

Maybe you can’t quantify that energy, he said, but you can quantify higher sales and reduced turnover that come from more qualified people doing their jobs better and making their guests happy.

“A great line cook can work one and a half, sometimes two stations, whereas a brand new line cook can barely work one station,” he said. “If that great line cook isn’t going down the street for an extra dollar because their chef is a great chef and a great teacher and educating them and giving them what they need emotionally and not just financially … people leave less often, you’re able to do more with less, you’re able to create better food and beverage, your regular guests are seeing the same bartenders, the same servers, the same managers, the same hostesses, and they come back more often because they feel that this is a place that has their act together.”

Berry hopes to start trying this at a couple of locations this month. He said he’s not promising that every week will be a four-day week, because it’s the restaurant industry. Things happen. But he hopes that maybe 45-48 weeks a year will be four-day weeks, “and you can have a better life than you would anywhere else.”

“We’re not promising a four-day week,” he said, “but we’re promising you an approach and some leadership that helps you carve out a better life for you and your family.”

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About the Author

Bret Thorn

Senior Food Editor, Nation's Restaurant News

Senior Food & Beverage Editor

Bret Thorn is senior food & beverage editor for Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality for Informa’s Restaurants and Food Group, with responsibility for spotting and reporting on food and beverage trends across the country for both publications as well as guiding overall F&B coverage. 

He is the host of a podcast, In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn, which features interviews with chefs, food & beverage authorities and other experts in foodservice operations.

From 2005 to 2008 he also wrote the Kitchen Dish column for The New York Sun, covering restaurant openings and chefs’ career moves in New York City.

He joined Nation’s Restaurant News in 1999 after spending about five years in Thailand, where he wrote articles about business, banking and finance as well as restaurant reviews and food columns for Manager magazine and Asia Times newspaper. He joined Restaurant Hospitality’s staff in 2016 while retaining his position at NRN. 

A magna cum laude graduate of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., with a bachelor’s degree in history, and a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Thorn also studied traditional French cooking at Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine in Paris. He spent his junior year of college in China, studying Chinese language, history and culture for a semester each at Nanjing University and Beijing University. While in Beijing, he also worked for ABC News during the protests and ultimate crackdown in and around Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Thorn’s monthly column in Nation’s Restaurant News won the 2006 Jesse H. Neal National Business Journalism Award for best staff-written editorial or opinion column.

He served as president of the International Foodservice Editorial Council, or IFEC, in 2005.

Thorn wrote the entry on comfort food in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, 2nd edition, published in 2012. He also wrote a history of plated desserts for the Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, published in 2015.

He was inducted into the Disciples d’Escoffier in 2014.

A Colorado native originally from Denver, Thorn lives in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bret Thorn’s areas of expertise include food and beverage trends in restaurants, French cuisine, the cuisines of Asia in general and Thailand in particular, restaurant operations and service trends. 

Bret Thorn’s Experience: 

Nation’s Restaurant News, food & beverage editor, 1999-Present
New York Sun, columnist, 2005-2008 
Asia Times, sub editor, 1995-1997
Manager magazine, senior editor and restaurant critic, 1992-1997
ABC News, runner, May-July, 1989

Education:
Tufts University, BA in history, 1990
Peking University, studied Chinese language, spring, 1989
Nanjing University, studied Chinese language and culture, fall, 1988 
Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine, Cértificat Elémentaire, 1986

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