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Podcast: What the Carl’s Jr.-Hardee’s split means for their foodPodcast: What the Carl’s Jr.-Hardee’s split means for their food

Owen Klein develops different flavors for the two brands

Bret Thorn, Senior Food Editor

August 16, 2019

1 Min Read
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Since Owen Klein joined CKE Restaurants as vice president of global culinary innovation four years ago, the Nashville-based parent of Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s has had a change in strategy. For years, the two brands were treated as one, with similar logos and nearly identical menus, but that changed in early 2018 when CEO Jason Marker reversed course and started marketing them differently.

That meant a change of tack for Klein, who is responsible for developing new menu items, and improving existing ones, for both brands.

In this edition of our Extra Serving podcast, Klein discusses how he’s focusing on “bold innovative flavors” for West Coast oriented Carl’s Jr., with items like the Bacon Truffle Burger that was a limited-time offer earlier this year, and how at Hardee’s, with its strong presence in the Midwest and Southeast, “our focus is on hometown classics, familiar favorites with a twist,” including a line of honey-butter biscuits that were introduced last year.  

Hardee_s_Froot_Loops_Mini_Donut_Shake_-_Lifestyle_2.jpgKlein also discusses how Carl’s Jr. became the first major chain to roll out Beyond Meat’s meatless Beyond Burger, and he shares insights into why plant-based protein is such a hit among consumers.

And finally he shares a little-known secret about Froot Loops, which Klein offered in doughnut form as a snacking play for both brands.

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Bret Thorn

Senior Food Editor, Nation's Restaurant News

Senior Food & Beverage Editor

Bret Thorn is senior food & beverage editor for Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality for Informa’s Restaurants and Food Group, with responsibility for spotting and reporting on food and beverage trends across the country for both publications as well as guiding overall F&B coverage. 

He is the host of a podcast, In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn, which features interviews with chefs, food & beverage authorities and other experts in foodservice operations.

From 2005 to 2008 he also wrote the Kitchen Dish column for The New York Sun, covering restaurant openings and chefs’ career moves in New York City.

He joined Nation’s Restaurant News in 1999 after spending about five years in Thailand, where he wrote articles about business, banking and finance as well as restaurant reviews and food columns for Manager magazine and Asia Times newspaper. He joined Restaurant Hospitality’s staff in 2016 while retaining his position at NRN. 

A magna cum laude graduate of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., with a bachelor’s degree in history, and a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Thorn also studied traditional French cooking at Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine in Paris. He spent his junior year of college in China, studying Chinese language, history and culture for a semester each at Nanjing University and Beijing University. While in Beijing, he also worked for ABC News during the protests and ultimate crackdown in and around Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Thorn’s monthly column in Nation’s Restaurant News won the 2006 Jesse H. Neal National Business Journalism Award for best staff-written editorial or opinion column.

He served as president of the International Foodservice Editorial Council, or IFEC, in 2005.

Thorn wrote the entry on comfort food in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, 2nd edition, published in 2012. He also wrote a history of plated desserts for the Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, published in 2015.

He was inducted into the Disciples d’Escoffier in 2014.

A Colorado native originally from Denver, Thorn lives in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bret Thorn’s areas of expertise include food and beverage trends in restaurants, French cuisine, the cuisines of Asia in general and Thailand in particular, restaurant operations and service trends. 

Bret Thorn’s Experience: 

Nation’s Restaurant News, food & beverage editor, 1999-Present
New York Sun, columnist, 2005-2008 
Asia Times, sub editor, 1995-1997
Manager magazine, senior editor and restaurant critic, 1992-1997
ABC News, runner, May-July, 1989

Education:
Tufts University, BA in history, 1990
Peking University, studied Chinese language, spring, 1989
Nanjing University, studied Chinese language and culture, fall, 1988 
Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine, Cértificat Elémentaire, 1986

Email: [email protected]

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