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Bret Thorn, Senior Food Editor

May 4, 2009

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It’s a rare sandwich that, when offered by a burger chain, sells better than a burger itself. And while the BBQ Brisket Sandwich launched last summer by Culver’s Franchising didn’t outsell the BBQ Cheddar Burger that was part of the same promotion, it came close.

On the other hand, the sandwich was successful enough to win this year’s Menu-Masters award for “Best New Menu Item Rollout.”

“The brisket sandwich outperformed the ribs and was pretty close to the burger,” says James Blystone, Culver’s director of marketing.

Those items were all part of the chain’s “Get Saucy this Summer” barbecue limited-time promotion.

“We know barbecue is a strong flavor for our guests, and we wanted to add some variety to the menu that no one had done before in our segment,” says Jim Doak, the company’s director of research and menu development.

A native of Houston, Doak grew up with barbecue, and as a veteran of casual-dining chains—he previously worked at Metro-media Restaurant group, which owned the Bennigan’s, Steak and Ale, Bonanza, and Ponderosa chains—he knew about themed product rollouts.

This promotion featured barbecue ribs, the BBQ Cheddar Burger, onion rings and the BBQ Brisket Sandwich.

Onion rings have long been on the menu, Doak explains, “but one of the things we like to do with a promotion like this is to have new news, but also to highlight signature items.”

Consultant Alan Hickok, managing director of Restaurant & Retail Strategies in Minneapolis, says promotions like these are an important part of Culver’s marketing strategy.

Get them in the door

“Those are the kind of things that you have to do to stay fresh and relevant,” he says, and whether the new or featured items sell well isn’t really the point.

“Whether people order them or not is almost immaterial, as long as it spurs them to try Culver’s,” he says. “That’s what they’re designed to do, really. If it gets them in the door, mission accomplished.”

Doak says the sandwich took about four months to develop.

“It really started off with creating the dry rub that we use with the ribs,” Doak says.

It is a brown-sugar-based rub with salt and a proprietary blend of spices that he developed two years earlier when the ribs were offered as an LTO for the first time.

“We kind of built on the platform of the ribs,” he says.

Hickok says that’s a key strategy for Culver’s.

“One aspect of Culver’s strategy that they execute very well is they build around their core products,” he says.

Doak partnered with one of Culver’s manufacturers, who smokes the brisket, slowly cooks it and then slices it for them.

ITEM: BBQ Brisket SandwichROLLOUT: June 2008, part of a “Get Saucy this Summer” promotionCOMPANY: Culver FranchisingHEADQUARTERS: Prairie du Sac, Wis.UNITS: 396 DESCRIPTION: rubbed and slow-smoked brisket, thinly sliced, grilled and topped with signature barbecue sauce and caramelized onions. Served on signature four-inch Kaiser rollWEIGHT/HEIGHT: 4 ounces of brisket, about three inches highPRICE: varies by location, $3.99-$4.49 for a sandwich only; $6.49-$6.99 as part of a value basketDEVELOPER: Jim Doak, director of research and menu development

If at first you don’t succeed

“It took a couple of passes to get it where we wanted it,” says Doak, who noted the biggest problem was using the right amount of spice rub—it took more than expected for its flavor to really come through.

“We adjusted the amount of rub and did a few things with the way the meat was being smoked and handled,” he says.

At that point, the sandwich was ready to roll.

Strawberry and raspberry flavors also were promoted in the chain’s custards and concretes—custard mixed with a choice of more than 30 toppings—which were recommended as accompaniments for the brisket sandwich and other “Get Saucy this Summer” items. That resulted in a “significant increase” in sales of those flavors. Onion rings sales got a bump, too, as did the chain’s pot roast sandwich.

Boats rose

“Our menu is fairly broad, and we have a lot of choice and variety,” Doak says, adding the brisket item helped underscore the fact that Culver’s sells more than burgers and frozen custard.

“[The pot roast is] kind of a quiet hidden gem on the menu,” Doak says, “and all boats rose when this [BBQ brisket] sandwich was out there.”

Doak says the chain’s size—396 units in 15 mostly Midwestern states—also worked to its advantage for this promotion.

“We’re big enough that it’s an advantage from a purchasing standpoint, but not so big that it’s a liability from a supply standpoint,” he says.

Blystone says the sandwich might come back again, but he won’t know until after this summer. He says Culver’s is in the process of putting together a product development plan for the next 18 months.

“Once we get through this summer’s test [of new products], we’ll make a decision,” he says. “Barbecue is very ‘Americana,’ and Culver’s is a Midwest, family-based organization, so it was a good fit for us and supports a lot of things that we wanted to do.”

About the Author

Bret Thorn

Senior Food Editor, Nation's Restaurant News

Senior Food & Beverage Editor

Bret Thorn is senior food & beverage editor for Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality for Informa’s Restaurants and Food Group, with responsibility for spotting and reporting on food and beverage trends across the country for both publications as well as guiding overall F&B coverage. 

He is the host of a podcast, In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn, which features interviews with chefs, food & beverage authorities and other experts in foodservice operations.

From 2005 to 2008 he also wrote the Kitchen Dish column for The New York Sun, covering restaurant openings and chefs’ career moves in New York City.

He joined Nation’s Restaurant News in 1999 after spending about five years in Thailand, where he wrote articles about business, banking and finance as well as restaurant reviews and food columns for Manager magazine and Asia Times newspaper. He joined Restaurant Hospitality’s staff in 2016 while retaining his position at NRN. 

A magna cum laude graduate of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., with a bachelor’s degree in history, and a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Thorn also studied traditional French cooking at Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine in Paris. He spent his junior year of college in China, studying Chinese language, history and culture for a semester each at Nanjing University and Beijing University. While in Beijing, he also worked for ABC News during the protests and ultimate crackdown in and around Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Thorn’s monthly column in Nation’s Restaurant News won the 2006 Jesse H. Neal National Business Journalism Award for best staff-written editorial or opinion column.

He served as president of the International Foodservice Editorial Council, or IFEC, in 2005.

Thorn wrote the entry on comfort food in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, 2nd edition, published in 2012. He also wrote a history of plated desserts for the Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, published in 2015.

He was inducted into the Disciples d’Escoffier in 2014.

A Colorado native originally from Denver, Thorn lives in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bret Thorn’s areas of expertise include food and beverage trends in restaurants, French cuisine, the cuisines of Asia in general and Thailand in particular, restaurant operations and service trends. 

Bret Thorn’s Experience: 

Nation’s Restaurant News, food & beverage editor, 1999-Present
New York Sun, columnist, 2005-2008 
Asia Times, sub editor, 1995-1997
Manager magazine, senior editor and restaurant critic, 1992-1997
ABC News, runner, May-July, 1989

Education:
Tufts University, BA in history, 1990
Peking University, studied Chinese language, spring, 1989
Nanjing University, studied Chinese language and culture, fall, 1988 
Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine, Cértificat Elémentaire, 1986

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